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That hate their country, we will route the fake dues media. we will defeat crooked joe biden, we will drain the swamp once and for all. >> ladle out there. joining me now -- is a professor of history and what you, the author of the lucid newsletter that tracks threats for democracy, the author of the very important book, strongmen, mussolini to the president. unlike donald, trump she does have a ph.d.. also joining me is the former republican congressman, joe walsh of illinois, ran against donald trump for president in 2020. the host of the podcast, white flag, with joe walsh, and the author o...

Prove actual malice, that trump knew what he was saying was false at the time he said it, he most certainley was on notice by saying the day after the verdict came down from the jury in new york. >> former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan and a ph.d. in plain speaking about the law. you always make things really understandable. you thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. same to you. >> we'll be right back. stay with us. stay with us hi, i'm todd. i'm a veteran of 23 years. i served three overseas tours. i love to give back to the community. i offer what i can when...

Jury. and so it seems if she wants to send that message he cannot say these things with impunity, she's going to go in and she's going to back it up. so i admire her for her gumption, and if anything i think her legal claim is stronger now because to the extent she has to prove actual malice, that is trump knew what he was saying was false at the time he said it, he most certainly was on notice the day after the verdict came down from the jury in new york. >> barb mcquade, and a ph.d. in plain speaking about the law, barb, you always make things really understandable. thank you for being with ...

We'll cut him a little bit back, as far as his water intake and food intake so he doesn't feel sluggish. you don't want him to feel sluggish when he's trying to buck. >> reporter: how many bulls do you raise or work with typically? >> we have about 50 on our ranch. we're partners with h.d. page on cool whip as we have several other big bulls with them, so it kind of varies between what we have with them and our own ranch. we have our ma a macaus and our babies on -- mama cows so it's a lot of fun. >> reporter: is cool whip friendly? >> he's very friendly. do you want to pet him? >> reporter: i...

Budget office, peter or zag, said in an interview that i did with him earlier today about another lane that could be taken here. watch this. >> the first test, clearly, is to cut a deal, and that should happen. but, we are getting close enough here, we need to start playing through the alternatives. i think relative to default, or prioritization, if we are in that position, i would invoke the 14th amendment, and ignore the debt limit. >> so, the 14th amendment basically says, ignore the debt limit, and democrats, the government, can keep on trucking. do you think that is a possibility here, ja...