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Sequester if push came to shove. >> steve, that was very rude of jay carney to remind us of what, to use numbers like the factual record. >> we can see this week -- in 2011, it happened twice, actually o-- first, there was this continuing resolution fight early in 2011. republicans were ready to shut down the government over spending cut demands. and the white house, what we now see there is a report out that jack liu found ways to make phantom cuts, to protect the poor, and republicans didn't really look into it and accepted it. and said now we got our spending c cuts. you're saying now, the ...

Ambush budget. the president is ambushing the american people. >> and also -- >> and promising to cut the deficit. >> are you done? >> and i think what he was going to say, by promising to cut the deficit but at the same time, increasing spending and a lot of people have said that some of these cuts in this budget are phantom cuts. for example, when you look at the cuts to the military, the cost that we might save from not being in the wars in iraq and afghanistan, well, really those aren't savings because we borrowed that money to begin with. this is what economists are saying. >> but when --...

we'll be live when it hams. yesterday speaker boehner told the troops to "get their asses in line". apparently not enough republicans have, and now his credibility is on the line. most of the opposition coming from tea party supporters, raw, open, direct rebellion. >> we want to make sure we never get here again. i want to support something that makes sure we never get here again. >> the deal that is on the table makes the hole deeper. and so don't -- you shouldn't expect people who believe that we should balance the budget to vote for a deal that makes the hole deeper. >> i can't su...

to send it to the senate where it can receive action. >> well, the vote was scheduled for yesterday, rescheduled for early this evening and then put on hold again so the leadership could wrangle votes. they're going that literally as we speak. still promising a vote sometime tonight. we'll be live when it hams. yesterday speaker boehner told the troops to "get their asses in line". apparently not enough republicans have, and now his credibility is on the line. most of the opposition coming from tea party supporters, raw, open, direct rebellion. >> we want to make sure we never get he...

boehner's plan has now checked harry reed's. today those same bean counters are saying, yep, reed's numbers are wrong as well. but they also say that when it's all said and done, reed's deficit cutting trumps boehner's by, listen to this, more a trillion dollars. reed's plan, ten years, $2.2 trillion in net debt reduction. meantime boehner's plan $850 billion. again, six days until default. so what about the white house here? no debt meetings, not today, at least not publicly on the president's schedule. so let's go to washington, to jane small she's a congressional correspondent of ...