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In recent days, advocates like roger moore on -- michael moore, last night on keith olbermann show, he was saying that the existing conditions will only apply to children for the first four years. that so much of this is delayed gratification. is it going to be hard for people to really see the benefits between now and election day, november 2010. and if you can hear me, it's good over the sirens. >> health care happening right around me. right away, preexisting conditions will be barred as a reason to turn down children, so family will be able to keep this individual on the policy. for adults...

Playing with fire and the reason i bring it up, two things that caused problems for the plan and where the icing on the cake were the cornhusker deal in nebraska which made a lot of these deals smack of back room deals that gave some states advantages and other state wouldn't get and the union deal, unions showed up at the white house and got exempt from paying the cadillac tax. are those things going to be gone? >> yes. i think it is very clear that the nebraska deal should go. that wasn't in the how about and we sure as heck don't -- martha: it seems to be clear and what about this union dea...

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Between the house and senate bill that right now lawmakers here in the senate are being briefed on. so to just hit a few, the senate bill would have 5 to 7 tax brackets, that is different than the house bill, that is four tack gets. also we expect different income threshold levels in the senate bill which we do not know those threshold levels yet. we're still waiting to see the senate bill has a partial repeal of the estate tax, a full repeal of the state and roll tax reductions. the house plan plea serves at lea preserves some. and also note pli sources telling cnn that the senate bill will c...

Emerging between the senate bill and house bill regarding state and local taxes which of course is very important to legislators from larger states, the question of the corporate tax rate, would it be a one year phase-in, would it affect immediately, how many brackets. this has to work its way through. but the big problem they will have is that they want to be able to tell everyone middle class voter that your taxes are going to go down. and what we're hearing and talking to republicans is the promises are more like your taxes won't go up. that is not the same thing. it is not the same thing. ...