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Side he shouldn't be removed from office for it. >> you're seeing the strategy of the republican defense, phase one process argument, comblapla about the process which is always a loser because americans don't care about a process argument. they shifted to, two, oh, it wasn't first hand, it's so far removed. >> hear say. >> third -- >> lindsey graham's new definition of whether hearsay evidence is admissible or not. that was fun for the senate judiciary chairman to hear him rewrite that. >> lasted for a bit. and then you have one of the ambassadors aides in ukraine bring up well actually i was...

Kamala had a pac-10 sec strategy, going to win on the west coast, going to win in the deep south. why -- why -- what's stopping kamala and cory from really making gains in south carolina and across the deep south? >> i think that you can't take black votes for granted just because you're black. when i ran in '04, this was in the first election after 9/11, i had to struggle to get to double digits because you had to give a rationale as to why you were running. a lot of people assume black candidate you're going to win. that's not true. they're not even in double digits in the polls. you have to...