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Going to work another 10 years to pay off 45,000ness debt all of a sudden his dad says i basically can retire because of what that gentleman just did, mr. smith just did. ainsley: how did you feel if you had already paid it. your parents had already paid it. shoot, i shouldn't have paid it. brian: that's losing the spirit of it, ainsley. you could be practical. he set up grants for it. he also said one of the keys to his success in life was the fact that when he was in denver, they bused him to a predominantly white school, carson school. this is where he met the best teachers, inspirational p...

Are doing. and many -- i mean certainly my relatives who came to this country, i don't know if yours came with ph.d.es from ireland, my certainly didn't. my were farmers. >> did they get welfare? >> i don't think welfare existed then. >> no it didn't. mine didn't take welfare either. auto% of the people are on welfare. >> had welfare existed i expect that a lot of irish people who came into this country in the 1800s in the turn of the century would have been on welfare because they were very poor. >> look -- >> -- they were very poor and let me say another thing. i don't understand your sudden...

Are doing. and many -- i mean certainly my relatives who came to this country, i don't know if yours came with ph.d.es from ireland, my certainly didn't. my were farmers. >> did they get welfare? >> i don't think welfare existed then. >> no it didn't. mine didn't take welfare either. auto% of the people are on welfare. >> had welfare existed i expect that a lot of irish people who came into this country in the 1800s in the turn of the century would have been on welfare because they were very poor. >> look -- >> -- they were very poor and let me say another thing. i don't understand your sudden...

And that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction, joining us from washington charles krauthammer. now, i see this intrusion as a growing problem. it's getting worse. agree? >> i'm not sure i think so and i do go back to the 19 1960's when instead of a fringe protest here and there they basically -- these radicals took over the universities. they occupy them.ted they dictated policy. the e stayed out. and then they did even something more effective. they realized well, you know, coming in from the outside is really not going to do much. you get a little attention, publicity. but but...

And that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction, joining us from washington charles krauthammer. now, i see this intrusion as a growing problem. it's getting worse. agree? >> i'm not sure i think so and i do go back to the 19 1960's when instead of a fringe protest here and there they basically -- these radicals took over the universities. they occupy them.ted they dictated policy. the e stayed out. and then they did even something more effective. they realized well, you know, coming in from the outside is really not going to do much. you get a little attention, publicity. but but...