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Criticism in a philadelphia paper from a pastor there also a morehouse grad who said, who called president obama a president for everyone, except for black people. do you think that had anything to do with it? >> it did. it's not a completely illegitimate criticism. barack obama stands in front of the morehouse college and can talk about the affordable program and never says the plus one loans. it has decimated hcus. he and arne duncan have a terrible reputation when it comes to foss toring african-american education for ph.d.s like myself. i think in a lot of way, barack obama has a lot to an...

Fully represent all of the different industries and their differing needs. h 1 b visas, something that we've been talking about for a long time. the economic value of retaining these ph.d.s from all over the world, we educate them, we force them to go back to their countries where they compete with the united states. what is it that they hope to accomplish here and what's the hang-up? >> the biggest hang-up right now is how can we make sure that the h 1 b visa, doesn't stay with the employer, but the person can move from one job to the next. >> otherwise they're captive. >> and you hear storie...

Qualifications for a job as a woman does, which may not be enough to get that promotion. a man will put himself out there. a woman will say i need to -- i need to be more ready. >> i think it's an incredible argument to be having right now because i think women are at a turning point. you have 30 years women have been getting more college degrees than men, for 30 years, anderson. women are now getting more ph.d.s than men, more medical degrees, more law degrees. we're at this turning point and yet there are so few women in leadership positions. sheryl sandberg is saying why is that. she is put...

The case. >> if you're her lawyer, do you want her off the stand? do you want to try to get her off? >> you want her off, but at this point, that's sfie and far between to pull that back. >> her lawyer obviously has a different strategy. her lawyer has just kept her up there, asking her all these oprah style questions about how did you feel, what was your relationship? did you live him, did you love him unconditionally? basically trying to give this big picture of her life to the jury. maybe it will work on the death penalty, maybe it will not. >> i think that's exactly what he is doing. you'r...

Relationship? did you live him, did you love him unconditionally? basically trying to give this big picture of her life to the jury. maybe it will work on the death penalty, maybe it will not. >> i think that's exactly what he is doing. you're right. he's decided, okay, you want to make this a daytime tv show, jerry springer-essque, i'm going to welcome it, i'm going to roll around it in. >> it's a risk. i mean, we'll see. i just think his strategy -- >> you people with ph.d.s, you're so judgmental. >> he is so judgmental with his ph.d. by the way, in order to be a prosecutor, don't you need a...