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In. the fact is that was discarded and ultimately we got videotapes and they were able to present videotapes. so we went to the senate floor as a trial, and we had to be sworn in separately as jurors. we had to sign an oath. and as you saw on the video, the chief justice was there in his black robe with his gold stripes on the arms, and we started. and it was very difficult. i mean, it went for -- it started on january 7th, 20 years ago, and completed i think on february 12th. >> did that private room meeting you are referencing, did it have by the end a consensus? >> it did. and interestingly...

Want to go ahead and close those loopholes. what's interesting, back in the mid-1980's there actually was a sequester that kicked in. it was part of the gramm-rudman sequester. fill gramm writes in the -- phil gram writes in the "wall street journal" journal today in anticipation of the sequester there were a lot of people in washington talking about doom and gloom and the sequester hit and it never happened. the reason it never happened, phil gramm writes today is the fact that the federal government actually has a lot of leeway. and despite the chicken little sky is falling stuff, if they ma...

Talk about cutting their stuff, so they lay low. >>guest: it is a mistake but look what the compromise they just worked owe. they have pushed it to the end of the year, after elections and before the next congress. they do this so no one is held accountable and we have to learn their games so we can go back and hold them accountable. >>neil: you do that, the tea party patriots, authors of "second american revolution." >> president obama is speaking to the narrative, and republicans are not. is former republican senator phil gram worried for his country? he is. he does not talk to the president...

economy came out just minutes ago. christine roman has those and then zain verjee looking at reaction to a deal made on the debt crisis and alison kosik at the new york stock exchange where your 401(k) could enjoy a big day. christine, let's go ahead and start with you. before we focus on the big debt deal, if you don't mind, let's talk about what this means. tell us about the economy and the good news we're getting. >> all right, first of all, gdp. how the economy grew in the most recent quarter. the third quarter. 2.5% kyra. that's twice as fast as it was in the second quarter. it ...