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In? where do you land the plane? i think this tells us a lot in terms of the presidential travel. remember, these are dated numbers. these are from march. you look at where the president has gone if april and may in june it gives you an indication where he has a real challenge, that's places like michigan, places like pennsylvania. where were we most recently? iowa. . >> that's a good point. phil rut customer, what's your information say about what the points of the numbers was, hans points out this was a massive poll that has very real use for any political campaign. but on the other hand, it...

Goes with his gut. >> i'm glad eli property what happened four years ago, we played that sound byte of the president essentially saying, i don't believe in polls. i actually interviewed him four years ago almost to the day, the same day he rode down that escalator that your colleague ashley parker wrote about so provocatively in today's paper. here's what he had to say then about whether or not he believed in polls. >> and i'm doing well in the polls. new hampshire, where they had a poll i was number 3. and nobody thinks i'm running. that was from yesterday or two days ago. nobody thinks i'm r...