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Ask, how's that a dodge to the question? this is something that has been boiling for some time. when you look at the to-ing and fro-ing and the partisanship and tension about filibusters, blocking a president's nom fine. since it's a democratic president, the the republicans and minority able to use their power of the philly buster to block the president's nominees. there's no question that when george bush was in the white house and democrats were in the minority here in the senate, they did the same thing. you can argue about the statistics and number of times but certainly the tool is somet...

President gets to appoint his people. you don't like them, you kick them out the next election. that's the way it's supposed to work. it's not being allowed to work by the sort of obstructionist strategy. i don't know what else you want harry reid to do but take it to the drink. >> harold, you served up there. when you get beyond the childish behavior of people talking about how sad it is their friends are the worst people who have ever served in the united states congress, this idea of changing the rules for the filibuster, this is a narrow change, talking about the president's appointees, ag...

They will address some of the inconsistencies. but the overall statements we have heard from zimmerman are pretty much correct. i think you will see a philly buster. they don't just happen in the legislature. they want to start the case on monday. they want to take the deposition of daryl parks before they proceed. i think you will see some things drag out tomorrow an go in to judgment or acquittal arguments and even though the judge wanted them end to today and start tomorrow, the great likelihood they will drag out today and judgment acquittal arguments and more than likely have them commenc...

Republican philly buster but the people who led that battle are still leading and making it so clear that this really was the first battle and this is not done. joining us for the interview is mark barden. his son was one of the 20 kids and six adults lost there on december 14th . mr. barden is a member of the sandy hook promise. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> i know that you were involved in lobbying the connecticut legislature to pass the reforms that they did. we saw you pledging not to give up at the federal level. you were in delaware yesterday, i have be...

Times. in fact, 89 times in the last -- in recent history. 71 of those times where it was not filibustered necessarily but called for a 60 vote margin. i want a 60 vote margin, john. you don't have is to philly buster to get that. if there is a way of doing. >> you don't actually have to mount the filibuster but there is the threat of it. that is what threatens cloture vote. >> you realize you just made news here saying you would support a filibuster. many of the senate colleagues said they don't think it should come to that. >> they are predicating on the assumption that we haven't been doing...