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Dewenter is here to lay those doubts to rest. there simply were not enough doctors, not enough atonightments to handle new patients, backlogged patients and, yes, very sick patients. dewenter, a scheduling clerk, was making life and death decisions. >> and that really overtook even the wait list because now i have a consult where veterans are very sick so i have to ease up on the -- on the wait list, and it sounds so wrong to say, but -- and work these schedule appointments so at least i felt the sickest of the sick were being treated. >> and you're making basically those triage decisions? >> ...

Never have this happen to another veteran again. and that's when dr. foot and i really started connecting about what was happening. >> in december of last year, de wenter and a v.a. physician name the dr. sam foot told everything to the v.a.'s office of the inspector general. >> i thought that was a saving grace. i thought okay, this is it. this is going to be all over. you knowle? then it wasn't. and we were waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. >> and nothing happened. >> nothing happened. nothing. we didn't hear anything. the leadership was at thing us we passed everything. we're not...

Being placed on the electronic wait list, you were actually being placed on a piece of paper in somebody's desk drawer? >> correct. >> reporter: is that -- the secret list? >> yes. that would be the secret list. >> reporter: there is no doubt in your mind that was a secret list? >> no doubt. >> reporter: the secret list began in early 2013, she says, because of a waiting list for treatment here, that was simply getting out of hand. 1,700 veterans were on it. winter says, you couldn't get an appointment for at least nine months. and with 40 patients coming in each day, the list and the waits we...

This is a cover-up going on in realtime. this is since the scandal broke, what pauline de wenter is alleging is somebody is still trying to cover up just how bad things are there. >> the idea she's being called in to make life and death decisions is insane. this went wasn't the only bad news today. a scathing new independent report is exposing some of the worst horror stories yet. >> yeah, the office of special council, this is a group of government prosecutors, they work for the government and protect and investigate claims being made by whistleblowers like pauline. this agency released a let...

Of these lawmakers are really aligned with voter frustration out there. >> you heard paul say that the v.a. scandal so far not partisan. >> right. >> do you think republicans will lay off the v.a. as we head into the mid-term elections. seems to me they will be talking about the v.a. and irs and say this is another example of how government is broken. >> i agree with paul that this is not something that's partisan, and i think that -- that many republicans aren't going to lay off in the sense that they are -- they are not going to stop asking the hard questions. this is their job. they were el...