Volunteering saying that he has a right to council and they might get involved. >> let me ask you about some of the evidence against him. some of it was gathered, cnn was able to confirm through phone eavesdropping, is that -- how they built their case against him. would something like that be able to be used in the u.s. courtroom? >> the law is not clear in the u.s. area. if they were investigating him in the united states, it would be crystal clear, you would need a warrant before you could wiretap. this is a war zone, and we don't know what kind of war tapping was involved, was it part of a...