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But it does, your point does raise the larger picture that we need to change the laws. that's part and parcel of this comprehensive border security concept. it's not just about a barrier. it's not just about technology. it's about changing the laws that right now act as this giant pull. we encourage people to come here from other countries, to enter the country illegally because of the way our laws are structured, and those need to be fixed as well as part of a larger national security package. john: we should also point out though that this remain in mexico policy right now only applies to pe...

To vote for the wall measure. plus -- >> i will plead not guilt to these -- not guilty to these charges. john: what does the indictment of roger stone mean for the mueller investigation? we'll ask the sunday panel how problematic this is for the president. then, the democrat-controlled house moves to block president trump from pulling out of nato. >> it's quite simply the most successful political/military alliance in world history. john: we'll discuss the future of the u.s. role in this strategic alliance with jens stoll ten berg, secretary general of the north atlantic treaty association a...

To vote for the wall measure. plus -- >> i will plead not guilt to these -- not guilty to these charges. john: what does the indictment of roger stone mean for the mueller investigation? we'll ask the sunday panel how problematic this is for the president. then, the democrat-controlled house moves to block president trump from pulling out of nato. >> it's quite simply the most successful political/military alliance in world history. john: we'll discuss the future of the u.s. role in this strategic alliance with jens stoll ten berg, secretary general of the north atlantic treaty association a...

But it does, your point does raise the larger picture that we need to change the laws. that's part and parcel of this comprehensive border security concept. it's not just about a barrier. it's not just about technology. it's about changing the laws that right now act as this giant pull. we encourage people to come here from other countries, to enter the country illegally because of the way our laws are structured, and those need to be fixed as well as part of a larger national security package. john: we should also point out though that this remain in mexico policy right now only applies to pe...

Supposed to do, learn english, get a job, pay taxes, get in the back of the line, when your time came, you still couldn't be a citizen until we had total border security. john: sure. >> but if we're not going to fix one and we think one takes care of the other, so security only without -- john: but i think, but i think the president has indicated that he's willing to negotiate a bigger package on immigration. here's the question i have for you, senator manchin. you have voted consistently for a border barrier. many of your democratic colleagues, nancy pelosi in particular, don't want anything ...