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Contribute to the perseverance of our society in the best of ways in some form with my work. so it really was the first time i've ever explored this type of tragedy, and it was by far the most harrowing photographic experience of my career and my life. >> what did you find about their spirits and about being in their company? >> they really are my heroes. they had such kindness, they had such hope, and they've suffered an unimaginable ways, but they have come out the other end with such dignity. that really was moving, the dignity that i experienced. you know, it is obvious they're still deali...

Such hope, and they've suffered an unimaginable ways, but they have come out the other end with such dignity. that really was moving, the dignity that i experienced. you know, it is obvious they're still dealing with this every day from post traumatic stress to self-prosecuting at times, feeling insecure about being in society, but a lot of them have just been so brave. it really shows you how resilient the human spirit can be. >> when people hear the name avedon on a photography spread, they think of richard avedon, who we should tell the audience was your grandfather. >> yes. >> and your nam...