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Not taking advantage of it. i think all of those things. then it becomes a policy argument and on that front, these blue collar folks, at the end of the day, they're going to pick the side that provides a little more of a safety net. >> yeah. >> in their mind. that's what's hurting romney. >> we know kasich, we know john ca kasich, good friend of mine, always loved the guy. he's got an unemployment rate that's lower in ohio than the rest of the country. >> sure. >> but that guy is not connecting with people in ohio and i'm hearing it more and more, causing a drag on president obama. why? >> yo...