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Any. and when it comes to bannon, nobody got into it with bannon the way the moush did. that's why we have him on. good observation. thank you. we work hard at that. the hostility and theat calically i know that it drives the tribalism that is infecting us so much right now on cable tv. we see so much of it at night. it doesn't get us anywhere. you can disagree. you don't have to be disagreeable. lert, new details tonight about the infamous dossier alleging ties between president trump and russia. just hours ago more than 300 pages of closed door testimony were released. i read every single p...

There had been no steve bannon. where would the president be today? >> you disagree with that because why? >> i think bannon's cell to the president that i understand these people, they come to me through breitbart,izer been working with them and selling things to them, message wise i need me. he was vulnerable, unsure of his team around him. bannon gave him a confidence. brought him in, he won, he brought him closer? >> i was there. i don't think the president saw it that way. that could be your analysis. but the way i saw it he was looking to freshen up the team and make a transition into go...

>> they're different. people on wall street are more in your face. you may not like what they're saying to you, but they'll tell you exactly how they feel. >> the points is there are different sets of rules. we're making the same point. >> the american people see the people in washington for what they are and that's why the president became the president. >> that's why the challenge of leadership is to make it better. and with bannon around he was on a different course. we'll see what happens now. >> he's making it better. you guys don't like -- >> that's not fair. don't be unfair. >> i'm not ...

With kellyanne conway. one is a minted professional, the other one is a propagandaist and sells a lot of negative. what did you think was going to happen? >> you don't have to convince me about the differences and the professional qualities that kellyanne conway has versus steve. >> for very different reasons. it's norton people know how we got here. now they do. thank you for that. how do you feel about bannon being out at breitbart? >> you know, i don't feel good or bad about it, but i sort of predicted it. >> you don't feel any sense of satisfaction? >> i feel -- i feel a sense of relief fo...

Strategist. you remember when bannon said darkness is good. dick cheney, darth vader, satan, that's power. is steve bannon the second most powerful man in the world? that was the beginning of the end. trump is not one to share the spotlight. by april president trump referred to bannon as simply a guy who works for me. in july our big guest tonight, anthony scaramucci was fired at white house communications director. bean tried to block him. he failed. if there was any question about anthony's thoughts on bannon, here's a taste. >> i'm not steve bannon. i'm not try to suck my own [ bleep ]. i'm...