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On economic policy. >> the pie rose. the debt relative to the pie shrinks. >> we're getting a good lecture on deficits, aren't we? >> a guy who again in 2000 said he wanted to make the pie higher for everyone. i'm still not sure what he meant by that. growth is an interesting argument. i think that's what he is trying to say in terms of the economics he is putting out there. what you are hearing from his own party is that growth isn't the most important thing. cutting the deficit is the most important thing. if you look at him now as conservative as he was, could he win the nomination of his o...

>> the pie rose. the debt relative to the pie shrinks. >> we're getting a good lecture on deficits, aren't we? >> a guy who again in 2000 said he wanted to make the pie higher for everyone. i'm still not sure what he meant by that. growth is an interesting argument. i think that's what he is trying to say in terms of the economics he is putting out there. what you are hearing from his own party is that growth isn't the most important thing. cutting the deficit is the most important thing. if you look at him now as conservative as he was, could he win the nomination of his own party today? i th...