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And politico magazine has a big splashy bio piece on him out today. there's also a piece put out by the real ben carson.com and seems to drop the hint that he is thinking about running. in it he explains what he would do first as president. >> i think it would be very important to have a conversation with the house and the senate and talk about what our goals as a nation should be. i would like to hear what they had to say. you knock the easy things out, and then that helps to establish the relationships. that makes it much more -- it facilitates doing the more difficult things later on. >> no...

Expedient sit with which certain states move towards these different types of laws that would impede the voting, mostly of minorities. sometimes also of college students and seniors and other pockets or demographics that tend to vote democratic. at the end of the day, the gutting of the voting rights act decision was such a strange piece of information because at the end of the day, it argues that because preclearance was working, that we no longer needed preclearance. >> yes. >> but obviously, if preclearance is working, we still do need it. >> and here are these examples. >> here are the exa...