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Thing we heard. the only way to get it there is threub rat pilot -- deliberate pilot action. do you agree? >> yes. there is always that 10%, 20% catastrophic failure. the auto pilot would not have stayed on in a critical condition like that. the auto pilot when it suffers a lot of turbulence could be kicked off. when someone tells me there was a catastrophic failure of all the electrical systems, et cetera, et cetera, that airplane is not going to fly for another 1,000 or even 500 miles. that thing had to be guided by some human hand. it would not have followed it because once you went off tha...

There was no time for them to presumably radio or alert anyone? what does that indicate to you? >> everything is speculation still. >> i understand. >> and so what have you got? you could have catastrophic mechanical failurement you could have terrorism. pilot action. that's it. in having done a number of not crash investigations but investigations over the years and operational activities you have got to avoid getting out ahead of things. everything you do has to be based on some piece of information to create a solid base of what you're doing. where the search is, they're saying we got to wa...

Look at the numbers this week. out of 7500 scheduled flights so far this week, 43% have already been delayed this week, 18% of those accessibly delayed, 9% canceled and now the airline may ask the court to issue an injunction against any pilot action. here's what they tell nbc news. quote, we do not want to pursue a legal remedy, but we're left with little alternative if the pilot's union does not take action to stop these pilots intentionally harming the operation. the dispute of the pilots has to do with the new working conditions that the airline forced onto pilots after they rejected a new...

Just a few months later, close call at o'hare airport, same situation, same runways. as a result of the close calls here at o'hare airport, the faa has taken corrective action. there's a new virtual intersection warning, and the controllers responsible for those two runways now sit next to each other to eliminate confusion. there were seven serious near collisions across the country in 2011. in this case, the credit goes to the pilots. >> it took overt pilot action to avoid an error. we got lucky. that's -- that's clearly cause for concern. >> reporter: the faa points out 99.99% of airline ope...