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Jay collins. scott, start with you. it looks like the cia since 2014 has been teaching them guerrilla war tactics. how would you define that? >> really what it comes down to, brian, and it's good to see you again. is the ability, the resilience of the ukrainian people who stand up against an outside oppressor like that, an outside occupier and resist. to mount a collective resistance at every level of warfare. and i guarantee you that is happening right now. it has been in the works for a while. and what you are going to see is a national level resistance, which is going to be extremely diffic...

Ukraine soldiers for the russians are going to be attacking from and come from all directions from all sides from all people. it's unconventional. it's completely hard to plan for. so, yes. they are being very careful. you don't know where those shots are coming from. >> brian: i thought this is kind of interesting, too. because we see the red area. before this whole war started, before this whole war started, scott, we knew this was occupied by the russians. but what we're seeing now and i will use yellow here is protests popping up here, here, and here. do you think while the cia is reported...