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Play, has been entertainment for both mortals and the gods. in the shadow world, everything has its opposites. at work within every man are forces both divine and animalistic. the philosophy of the shadow play is to strive for balance. you cannot kill the demonic animal urges within. you must harness them, yet not be controlled by them. ♪ shadows that manifest on screen are more than mere relief; as they come alive, timeless tales interspersed with subversive stories, bring the world of gods, monsters and heroes into sync with current social commentary. ♪

Imbalance, it's the other way around. the right is the intuitive, holistic, access to everything we've ever been. >> anthony: that's the right way. >> lawrence: access to our genetic memory, exactly. >> anthony: so they know stuff we don't know. >> lawrence: they definitely know stuff we don't know. ♪ >> anthony: given all the time you spent in indonesia, do you experience life differently or in any way similarly to the way people here look at it? >> lawrence: no, i don't think i do see it the way people here see it. i like to think i can see what it is they're seeing as it were, but i've go...

Come back? >> lawrence: unexplored regions, tropical animals, ancient civilizations, long memory amongst the people, mysticism. everything a school boy would obviously love. >> anthony: your training, correct me if i'm wrong, psychoanthropology? >> lawrence: yes. >> anthony: now, are there through lines, or, is there any connectivity between belief systems? >> lawrence: they're different, but they're all united by a common theme that they believe in the reality of the invisible world, they believe it's stronger than what we think is the reality, you know, what we can touch and measure and weig...

In the shadow world, everything has its opposites. at work within every man are forces both divine and animalistic. the philosophy of the shadow play is to strive for balance. you cannot kill the demonic animal urges within. you must harness them, yet not be controlled by them. ♪ shadows that manifest on screen are more than mere relief; as they come alive, timeless tales interspersed with subversive stories, bring the world of gods, monsters and heroes into sync with current social commentary. ♪

Certain things here that are just gone in other countries. you know, you still have got people putting sauté on the street. you've got people wheeling around sort of wooden carts that are gone elsewhere. at the same time, you've got 60 million people with smartphones, all on social media, and, you know, that's helping out massive opportunities. if you're a journalist here now, it's just a privilege. ♪ anthony: yeah. so is this the unofficial foreign correspondents club? >> joe: it is. >> ed: very much so. >> joe: indeed. yeah. anthony: how long have you been living here? >> joe: most of 18 ...