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Much. i think that was a pretty strong sanction. and now for him to come back and say he should win this house race as some sort of, what, reward? what's his argument there? >> i didn't get the retort. i mean, i understand, look, you have to be able to separate a vote for somebody and forgiveness over an indiscretion. we forgive mark sanford, not because mark sanford to but because if you're a christian christ calls you to. that doesn't mean i want him representing me nationally pip point of bill clinton is that's fine, i've forgiven bill clinton, too. he was my governor before he was your pre...

Race as some sort of, what, reward? what's his argument there? >> i didn't get the retort. i mean, i understand, look, you have to be able to separate a vote for somebody and forgiveness over an indiscretion. we forgive mark sanford, not because mark sanford to but because if you're a christian christ calls you to. that doesn't mean i want him representing me nationally pip point of bill clinton is that's fine, i've forgiven bill clinton, too. he was my governor before he was your president. the fact of the matter is i still didn't want him being president after that interdent. mark is having ...