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To change interyags nal boundaries on the continent of europe and continue to interfere in ukraine created an environment where this specific tragedy wasn't fore seeable but understandable this can happen. so i think american policy has to change not just with respect to ukraine. but more broadly i think we've got to look at russia as putin made it out to be. it's an adversary. we need to go back to a strong missile defense program. and if people want to talk about sanctions, no more pin prick sanctions against the russians. let's do something significant. >> western europeans have their hands...

To change interyags nal boundaries on the continent of europe and continue to interfere in ukraine created an environment where this specific tragedy wasn't fore seeable but understandable this can happen. so i think american policy has to change not just with respect to ukraine. but more broadly i think we've got to look at russia as putin made it out to be. it's an adversary. we need to go back to a strong missile defense program. and if people want to talk about sanctions, no more pin prick sanctions against the russians. let's do something significant. >> western europeans have their hands...

To change interyags nal boundaries on the continent of europe and continue to interfere in ukraine created an environment where this specific tragedy wasn't fore seeable but understandable this can happen. so i think american policy has to change not just with respect to ukraine. but more broadly i think we've got to look at russia as putin made it out to be. it's an adversary. we need to go back to a strong missile defense program. and if people want to talk about sanctions, no more pin prick sanctions against the russians. let's do something significant. >> western europeans have their hands...

Their free speech. what did you learn,t tia about their ideology? >> i think their ideology is money. they had a net worth of $50 billion when we started making the film and now three years later it is doubled. they are the wealthiest men in the world if you put their wealth together. meanwhile most people in this country have not done well in the last three years. you can learn a lot from david koch's platform when he was running in 1980. he wanted to eliminate social security, eliminate medicaid, eliminate medicare, eliminate the post office. you know, they were against requiring car manufac...

Ukraine and so many other places where russia is playing the oil card and gas card. >> do you think it will be approved once the mid term elections? >> i think maybe it will be approved. it will be approved in the next administration. look, we don't need pipe lines. we have it right under our own feet. let's build it anyway. it is jobs. it is not going to hurt anybody. it is purely a political thing. the environmentalists are at work. you are talking about a lot of jobs and something that needed badly or not would be a positive. it is another way of transporting energy and that's a good thing....