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The president that this case would probably be over by now. and that hasn't proven to be true. so that may be the clang. obviously, dowd thought that he could not appear with digenova, they could not share the lead on this case. and that's clearly why he resigned. so, yeah, i think a war footing is coming. i think the next person will have to decide does he stay is ty cobb. can he co-exist with someone like that. >> but rick, don't you think this is a media war or maybe a spin war? as ryan said, spin theories? because it appears that he has assembled a team of tv lawyers and tv spinners who ar...

Proven to be true. so that may be the change. obviously, dowd thought he could not be a peer, they could not share the lead on this case and that's clearly why he resigned. i think a war is coming. >> rick, don't you think this is media war or maybe as ryan said spin theories? it appears he has assembled a team of tv lawyers and tv spinners who are going to spin the story about how mueller is, you know, corrupt and everyone is corrupt. isn't it more than that than what they're actually going to do in the courtroom or behind the scenes as attorneys? >> well, the problem for the whole theory of ...