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Have helped. i as a person who trained civilians regularly in firearms believe that the individual that wants to prevent an attack, if they are dedicated and motivated and they have the element of surprise, they can be very effective and preventing these types of mass shootings early on. i agree that a man with an ar against an individual with a pistol it may be an uneven go fight but maybe they have a level of defense that isn't presence there. >> let me respond to that. i think the whole point here is being missed. it's not fact that they could have had an armed guard that may have minimized...

Heavy weaponry. i wouldn't rule it out. it's just not likely that most people can make that shot. there are people that can. >> with a pistol it would be even harder. let me show a picture. we have an image to explain how far this was. muzzle blast seen up the hill from where the police officers were standing. at 125 yards the shot from the hill would have been over where protesters actually were. why does that matter? this number 125 yards matters. there's the picture i was hoping for right there. it would mean the shot came from somewhere other than where most of the protestors were. >> if s...