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What i'm doing right now is re-dyeing this saddle. reconditioning it, refurbishing it. i cleaned it, restripped it of all the old finish on it. and i put new dye on it. dyeing it black. in here it takes me four months. to do a saddle. i will be 70 in a couple months. i'll be in 24 years this june, doing life without. i got a violent crime. this is my sanity here. you know, getting up here, working. you can get your mind off of what prison is and just relax. i just enjoy doing this. it's therapeutic for me. >> donald pippin meets with dr. holbrook for the last time before he's released from hol...

The old finish on it. and i put new dye on it. i'm dyeing it black. in here it take me four months to do a saddle. i will be 70 in a couple months. i'll be in 24 years this june, doing life without. i got a violent crime. this is my sanity here. you know, getting up here, working. you can get your mind off of what prison is and just relax. and i just enjoy doing this. it's therapeutic for me. >> donald pippin meets with dr. holbrook for the last time before he's released from holman. >> hey. mr. pippin, how are you doing today? good to see you. >> i wrote my aunt. she wrote back and said i had...

All the old finish on it. and i put new dye on it. dyeing it black. in here it take me four months. to do a saddle. i will be 70 in a couple months. i'll be in 24 years this june, doing life without. i got a violent crime. this is my sanity here. you know, getting up here, working. you can get your mind off of what prison is and just relax. i just enjoy doing this. it's therapeutic for me. >> donald pippin meets with dr. holbrook for the last time before he's released from holman. >> hey. mr. pippin, how are you doing today? good to see you. >> i wrote my aunt. she wrote back and said i had a ...

Re-dyeing this saddle. reconditioning it, refurbishing it. i cleaned it, restripped it of all the old finish on it. and i put new dye on it. dyeing it black. in here it take me four months. i will be 70 in a couple months. i'll be in 24 years this june, doing life without. i got a violent crime. this is my sanity here. you know, getting up here, working. you can get your mind off of what prison is and just relax. i just enjoy doing this. it's therapeutic for me. >> donald pippin meets with dr. holbrook for the last time before he's released from holman. >> hey. mr. pippin, how are you doing to...

Redying this saddle. reconditioning it, refurbishing it. i cleaned it, restripped it of all the old finish on it. and i put new dye on it. dyeing it black. in here it take me four months. i will be spending a couple months. i'll be in 24 years this june, doing life without. i got a violent crime. this is my sanity here. you know, getting up here, working. you can get your mind off of what prison is and just relax. i just enjoy doing this. it's therapeutic for me. >> donald pippin meets with dr. holbrook for the last time before he's released from holman. >> hey. mr. pippin, how are you doing t...