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We got things done. what did that mean? >> the entire point of the story is that senator eastland used repugnant language like that. there is an attempt to show biden was praising segregati segregationis segregationists, nothing could be further than the truth. the one who has praised them is in the oval office right now. and joe biden is trying to bring us back to a police station of dignity and compassion. and you have a president in the oval office who does nothing but try to pit group against group to blame the other. >> yes. >> and the vice president believes that that kind of leadership ...

Trump's effort to break down fundamental elements of our democracy. the free press, use of armed forces by sending them to the border in this reality shore. the effort to pit group against group. that's what putin has wanted for the last ten years to see the contradictions in american democracy to begin to break down. i hope trump is doing this coincidentally and not something larger. >> fred, you know this as well as anybody in washington or across the world. after two years of donald trump, after two years of trumpism on the world stage, what is the health of the north atlantic treaty? what ...

Behind the shooting of wallace. >> wow. >> and the reason i'm reminded of this is not because there's any sign that trump is, you know, thought of doing something like that. but the stunning lack of empathy. and the immediate effort to just turn this into politics. it's just not in him. it's not in his software to unify the country. and, especially, you know, a little over a week before the midterms he's so intoxicated with trying to unify his base and pit group against group. >> but here's the distinction, and i'm not the historian here, but i've been thinking about this too, going back and r...

With trying to unify his base and pit group against group. >> but here's the distinction, and i'm not the historian here, but i've been thinking about this too, going back and reading nixon, nixon would do all that covertly. >> right. >> all of the dirty games and dirty tricks, all covert. when he went out and made a speech, he could plausibly pretend to care. he would go through and say things about it's a terrible tragedy and the riots and this and that. >> right. >> this president is incapable of doing that. >> doesn't know -- >> the public performance is not within his register. >> totally...