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Against us there. this was part of his continued effort to polarize americans, pit us against each other and most importantly reduce our confidence in who we are as a people and in our democratic institutions and processes and to suggest to kind of moral equivalency, you know, between his murderous actions and repression of his people and his aggressive acts abroad and his enabling of serial episodes of mass homicide in syria, for example, suggesting a moral equivalence between us and russia. it's ludicrous, but he's brazen and he's a very smooth, savvy, liar and operator. >> and you were pres...

Personas, et cetera, et cetera, to spin us up, pit us against each other sew divisiveness and discord. >> as a joke that there was obviously never help from any of the elections. >> it's pretty much a 365 days a year threat. that is absolutely continued. >> you look at what russia did, buy some facebook ads, and it's a terrible thing, but i think the investigations and all of the speculation has had a much harsher impact than a couple facebook ads. >> the investigation has had a much harsher impact on our democracy than a couple facebook -- what? >> on its face, that's absurd. let's just conce...

Before the second world war. there were, you know, armies sneaking back and forth across this region that included poland, baltic states, ukraine so this is a place that was devastated by the memories of those wars. in the post-communist era, i think there was an attempt by the poles, the hungarians, the baltic states to show they are on the side of the west. they want to create knocks see -- democracy and in a way, kind of pit us against russia in a good-guy/bad-guy mentality and then the attempt to get in the european union where the relationship was a bit more newt that will but after these