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There and something has been described as something in terms of his responsibilities as a senator. there's a theory that trump is selling us out to the russians just as on the right that obama was selling us out to the russians, it's kind to have lunatic fringe that has become populated by people who should know better. >> pj what do you think? >> i think there's a large issue and a smaller issue, the larger issue is we still need to understand what russia tried to do during the 2016 campaign. there's little doubt about the relationship between russian intelligence and julian assange. we need ...

We have ambassadors from the foreign diplomatic corp., they're interested in the same issues, it doesn't have knob anything nefarious or outside the context to have question he was asked in the hearing and the context of his work in the senate. we want our representatives to have a wider understanding of the interest of other nations to carry out their business for america. i really do think this is -- this is not a question of perjury, this is kind of nasty politics that's now gotten to such ex-treatment craziness, the only serious thing underneath is this is there subversion of the u.s. gove...