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So it's interesting. do we know what he might do? >> katie: we know based on what he has said what he might do which is consider the nominee based on their credentials to really prevent them, listen to their constituents back home, doesn't seem like doug jones is willing to just get in line with the far left democratic party and the senate right now which is a good thing. you had joe manchin in the sound bite earlier saying i'm going to go home and listen to my constituents. it is not a difficult call for red state democrats. you listen to what people back home want, the majority of them voted...

Think is a little farther to tht and some of the other red state democrats but is not actually a question of policy, l philosophy. and judge kavanaugh is clearly a very smart jurist but i think there are some democrats who disagree with his philosophy of how he interprets the constitution whether it's issues like women's health, whether it's the role of the federal government and regulations and how far the federal government can go. that has the potential to impact our lives in a whole number of ways whether it's the environment or other places as well. it's a very long paper trail. you were ...

Believe and i have been involved in this stuff for a long time as all of you guys have, this election could not present a more stark contrast in governing pl philosophy and on one hand embodied on the remarks. you have a president who airs towards, in the very least, an entitlement society, a society of hand downs, a society of 46 million people on food stamps. i think that compared to less than ten over a decade ago. that is just -- that is a bad -- that is a bad symptom for a society when there is more of that versus less of that. governor romney, what he -- i'm going finish now. what he pre...