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Won rural voters. this negatively affects those voters. does he risk losing the political capital he has with those voters for not only congress and those who are up for reelection in 2018, but for a potential reelection bid of his own in 2020. matthew. >> he does. and that's why it's important that he follow through in this idea of health reform in phases. this bill is basically a place setter. it says we're going shift away from the obamacare model and we're going to move tword a more center right model of health reform. it's important that trump follow through with some of the other reforms...

He wasn't pontificating, he was just talking. you probably had the same experience i did. itches in the presence -- i was in the presence of mother theresa. not a charismatic person. i'm saying his power comes from his awe then sith -- awe thentiesty. he's sincere, authentic, living the life he calls others to live. he's genuine. that's water in the desert. >> neil: i try to get that genuine thing down. i built a career trying to build that. in all seriousness, do you get a sense, father, people quickly seize on the age, 76, maybe he's a place-setter, maybe just an interim guy to clean up, get...