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Here. the survey coming from nih. i think we're all retreating. we're writing too many prescriptions. giving too many medications not knowing what we're treating. this tells you of the power of mind how patients can feel better, you know, by just getting something that may be sugar. this prescription may look like some antibiotics but it could be totally sugar. same kind of things people are saying about acupuncture sometimes. may work, may not. in general this placebo effect in practice is the real deal. >> don't touch the magazines in a doctor's office without using anti-bacterial. we'll do ...

It. what i do like, i like the placebo effect. if i give you an antibiotic, i'm happy if it makes you better. >> this is your rule out that the patient doesn't need a specific drug and you give them something that isn't really a drug or you give them a drug even though you know the drug isn't going to help, it's viral versus bacterial and you give it to them anyway to make them feel calmer about it? >> that's exactly right. what happens is right now the patients go to the doctors. get in the waiting room. read the old magazine. pay their co-pays. they walk out with their prescriptions. because...

Saline into the desk, and then the people with the bone marrow, did they do better than the people with the saline? maybe it's just having something injected into the disc. make it's what we dahl placebo effect, which means somebody did something to you and you feel better because it was done to you. >> shepard: this is kind of a buzz kill. you're not usual live the buzz kill type. >> i'm a scientist. i want to look at things scientifically. >> shepard: i guess they got to do more trials is what you're saying, before anybody ought to ask for this thing. >> well, this is a very, very, very limi...

Administration have a responsibility to require or incentivise the states to do better. >> it is an often cited study conducted. they looked at the correlation between background checks and murder rates in states that had background checks being enforced. with the background checks be a kin to a placebo effect. it would make people feel better but not accomplish a great deal? >> my professional life has been spent in law enforcement. i was a prosecutor. worked with the law enforcement community. i am listening to the law enforcement community now, the prosecutors and police who tell me backgro...

bond hearing. >> and the oldest and most traveled space shuttle welcomed this hour at the museum where it will live out its days. more than 13 months after its final mission "discovery" on public display in a hangar near dulles airport in virginia. it's part of the national air and space museum, home to that stuff that won't fit in the building you've probably visited on the mall in d.c. "discovery" flew into dulles on tuesday and its sister shuttle "endevour" was bound for los angeles and "atlantis" kennedy space center in florida. we're following live pictures this morning. after...