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Discussion. let's stick with what we see here. on the premiums, near term, a spike in premiums, 15 to 20% higher, but by 2026, that's a good number, 10% lower premiums in the individual marketplace, and that's on average, john. let's dig into the affect on premiums depending on who you are. lower for a 21-year-old, obviously. this is legislation that is designed, you should not have to pay more under tif you are youn healthy. and look at this analysis. under obamacare a 64-year-old making $26,500 a year would have to pay 1,700 because of the way the subsidies are built, and under the gop plan ...

Through. he laid out his tax policy. the big headline, four tax rates, making them easier and fair for everyone. what is your big stayaway from trump? >> this is aspirational. all of these are aspirational. but he wants to cut taxes for everyone. and he wants to give away some of the goodies for the hedge fund managers but no hedge fund manager is going to cry over this. he's lowering the tax rate -- >> you say that because hedge fund managers are getting away with murder and they're not going to like my plan. >> talking about cutting capital gains tax, talking about eliminating the death tax,...