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"mr. mutterson." >> glenn: "mr. mutterson." was he a pleasant fellow at all? >> he was known to have a very sweet temperament. he was very quiet and very shy. he often had to be asked to people up when he was on the floor of the house or in the convention and so on. but among his family and his close friends, he was quite humorous. he loved his nephews and nieces. >> glenn: because the thing that i have seen is -- again, i know very little about him and i'm ashamed to say that. but what i do know is when he came to the convention, if this history is right, he was absolutely convinced, no, no, ...

>> frenchman once called him "mr. mutterson." >> glenn: "mr. mutterson." was he a pleasant fellow at all? >> he was known to have a very sweet temperament. he was very quiet and very shy. he often had to be asked to people up when he was on the floor of the house or in the convention and so on. but among his family and his close friends, he was quite humorous. he loved his nephews and nieces. >> glenn: because the thing that i have seen is -- again, i know very little about him and i'm ashamed to say that. but what i do know is when he came to the convention, if this history is right, he was a...