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Statement, the idea about they're punching down, they're playing on his battlefield. what has stood out the most to you? >> i have to tell you, just from listening today, and we heard from three presidential candidates, pete buttigieg, kirsten gillibrand, kamala harris, the thing that you really notice is how different the conversation is this cycle. remember back in 2008 when barack obama didn't really directly talk about issues of race right off the bat. we're now having conversations early on in this cycle about systemic racism. kirsten gillibrand in particular talked about her responsibili...

That level of conversation. and the specificity of the plans. harris unrolled a plan today. one was $60 billion investment in to stem education at hbcu a level of conversation that is new and especially new among a very diverse democratic field. >> of course, we're talking about senator harris. she was by the way defending her career as a district attorney. and also as attorney general of california. watch. >> i'm a acutely aware of what is wrong with the system. and i made a conscious decision to become a prosecutor. why do we om have to be on the outside? on bended knee or trying to break do...

Joe biden unveiling a detailed criminal justice plan today, hoping a new approach helps him deflect sharp criticism of his past. that's not likely, with debates looming next week. biden's new plan walks away from many of the approaches he championed a generation ago in helping to pass the 1994 crime bill. the mandatory minimum sentences in that package are now blamed for mass incarceration. biden's hope, when rivals criticize his past, he can steer the conversation to the future. >> no mandatory minimums, the end of private prison, additional funding for drug courts, bail reform, mandatory tre...

Peter doocy is live in washington with more. >> reporter: joe biden did roll out a criminal justice plan today, but because he was also one of the champions of the 1994 tough on crime bill, cory booker is not satisfied. he said this in a statement. joe biden had more than 40 years to get this right, the proud act tebgt of a failed system is not the right person to fix it. the 1994 crime bill accelerated mass incarceration and inflicted immeasurable harm on blacks, brown and low income communities. booker isn't just challenging biden today. he's also sizing up president trump. >> my testosteron...

Busing or hadn't gotten involved in the civil rights movement, you know, jim crow would still be around. >> well, i think you see his plan today, and he understands the importance of education in the african-american community. >> why not just say, i was wrong? >> look, education is what allowed me to go tomore house, go to tulane, go to harvard and get elected to the united states congress. and that was paved by the voting rights act and all those other things. if we really want to have a debate about joe biden's record on civil rights, we can do that, and i think it will show he has bj a fir...