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Wisconsin, indiana, the states are becoming dominant -- >> kimberly: they have to capitalize it. >> bob: what happened in upper midwest happened in the 2010 election. the most important election when 60 million more people come to the polls. in 2012 you see the ledgeture turned over. >> greg: i doubt it. >> bob: your boy scott, whatever his name is -- >> eric: scott walker, indiana now is going to move to be a right to work state. on the state level, republican and conservatives are spreading to become more -- >> dana: it's not easy to be a republican and go in a state failing under democratic...

>> bob: first, the debt total up to 61%. 39% of the country considers themselves moderate. it's there that the presidential election are won and lost. one. two, conservatives, there are a lot of type of conservative, moderate conservative to the wing, my brother here. this is trey wingo. i'm not sure that you say it's hard right conservative. that is is not what it means. it's been a big disparity. this is a center right country. i'll accept that. >> greg: that is a good point. if the country is center right how did they elect obama? >> bob: 90% of the center voted for him. that's. why >> kimb...

Crud on your nose. >> dana: that was all boiling inside, like a boil and erupted. >> greg: i wanted to get through it because it's friday, dana. is that surprising that americans are conservative given that it is a country of rugged individualism, dana? >> dana: no. introduceness matters and i think you will see a lot of that discussion in the next nine months. the question comes down to what kind of country are we going to be this how are we going to pay for it? in the last four weeks the campaign turned to do we like the system we have with improvement or go to something different like europ...