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>> dave: we don't know what we saw. a good point. no one's got to question her and no one got to sit down awn talk to her because the president said go after me, not her. >> and he said why are we linking her? she had nothing to do with this, the question, if she had nothing to do with it, why was she selected to have the press conference on the 16th. >> clayton: what governor huckabee said on our show i think was revealing. plausible deniability. she was the one not involved in the discussions, she's not in the state department, not in intelligence epicenter. >> dave: she didn't know what hap...

Dishing out big bucks. we've learned the city of stockton, california, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal benefits to members of the city council to pay off a total of $277,000. the mayor claims she had no idea the lawmakers got the pay. do you believe that? >> plausible deniability. we call that defense. that's why i was here. >> i'll take it over now. former president george w. bush is honoring some of our nation's wounded warriors this weekend and joining them in the wounded warrior bike tour down in texas is none other than dr. marc siegel. not only did he speak of the former...

Al-qaeda officials were inside pakistan and we had a chance to kill or capture we would do it. i don't think we were ever ambiguous about that. what the pakistanis said in response they can comment on. they were never in any doubt. >> martha: it seems part of our relationship with some elements of the pakistani government that we have a decent relationship with, has always been to allow them that kind of plausible deniability, right? >> there's that. there's been a record since the original attack on the taliban of going avatar gets inside pakistan. not with -- going after targets inside pakis...

Al-qaeda officials were inside pakistan and we had a chance to kill or capture we would do it. i don't think we were ever ambiguous about that. what the pakistanis said in response they can comment on. they were never in any doubt. >> martha: it seems part of our relationship with some elements of the pakistani government that we have a decent relationship with, has always been to allow them that kind of plausible deniability, right? >> there's that. there's been a record since the original attack on the taliban of going avatar gets inside pakistan. not with -- going after targets inside pakis...

Lawyer. if she goes into court and tries to stop it, can she? >> does she know about it? do the tapes exist? or is there a tape that looks like her but it's really not her? megyn: she didn't say i never did it. >> she is going with president children's plausible deniability defense which is i have to knowledge of new any tapes. if there is a tape that exists, but she didn't have any knowledge. maybe someone had a fake teddy bear with a video camera in it. if someone taped her without her knowledge, then she has a strong case. if she did consent to the creation of the tape and the partner is us...