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A few seconds ago that i said that there was a quid pro quo, you never use that language. >> but you described a quid pro quo and said that that happens all the time. >> reporters will use their language all the time, my language never said quid pro q quo. >> julie: kevin couric is life at the white house with more. >> we await the playback of the recording from the cabinet meeting, and as soon as they get that, i promise to pass it along. but you heard mick mulvaney, and you can tell them to walk back and backpedal a clarification by any definition, still trying to explain what he meant from ...

It's now down to a simmer and now it may be getting too cool further from here. we have to wait to hear from the playback to hear what exactly was said in that meeting. >> neil: thank you very much john roberts. before i gauge reaction from i guess you are, i can ignore the element in the room and the elephant leaving the room, shepard smith leaving the network. he's one of the originals as i'm i've had he just didn't age but i did. he didn't get a pound, i gained maybe 5 pounds. why are you laughing? so i'm with you, little shell-shocked. i apologize if i'm not my normal cells but let's get r...

To move forward with questioning her. you've seen the road blocks when they're trying to question current employees, current state department official its. so we're seeing democrats take another tactic and take unpeople who have left recently and fiona hill is among them and her job is going to be interesting. >> there's a long list of former white houses officials. that list may be growing. thank you for breaking the day's events down for us. joining me are ross garber and david gregory. you just heard sarah's report and trump is calling speaker mcconnell three time as day to get dirt on any ...

Intelligence committee. there are plenty of politics going into all of this as you have democrats crisscrossing the early primary states, running for president, and of course the entire house of representatives is on the ballot next year. so already you are seeing that and some of the moderate swing districts republicans are saying, ha ha. democrats are going forward with the left base on this one, but bottom line, plenty of politics. we expect to hear more on that in an hour. >> charles: now to john roberts. >> the president has been fine with impeachment talk as it's gone along. there's a te...

Country and don't have that. cohesively they don't have a message to resonate to make their lives better and when it comes to the gaffs maybe it's fine in a democratic primary but when trump is on a debate stage if joe biden gets through trump will make joe biden look like a fool. >> neil: you said this president's made more than a few gaffs of his own. >> the truth is no one's expecting president trump to be perfect. the democrats hold up this picture of perfection when it comes to their candidates and don't allow room for there to be errors. you talk about it. >> neil: they were coming out o...