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And i think that is going to change because jeb has said now -- i spoke to sources very close to the campaign -- that there is a new strategy. the gloves are coming off. they're tearing up the play sheet. they're going to start again. and you're going to see a much more outspoken jeb bush, which we'll see what happens in the debate on wednesday night. >> right. >> but marco rubio is in his lane. if jeb wants to get in front of him. >> mark, to your point, they're running neck and neck. what's also amazing to it, if you were to see some sort of fight between jeb and marco, that could take some ...

Tom brady will play this year but this issue is not just about the deflated footballs from last january. this is about a power struggle between the nfl and owners and a players association which doesn't have a ton of power when compared to other players associations in other sports. >> i mentioned that report from espn regarding the cheating with the patriots gond spygate. it says many former new england coaches and employees insist that the taping of signals wasn't even the most effective choating method the patriots deployed in that era. several of them acknowledge that during pre-game warm-...