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Competitive. and so republicans essentially are playing keepaway in a lot of these large states that they control, and the result is that primaries are going to be tantamount to election in over 85% or 95% of districts next ye year. >> how about illinois? i want another example of a democratic state. >> sure. well, illinois right now is 13-5 for the democrats, but under this new map the democrats drew, it's likely to be 14-3. now, when you see safe seats drawn, parties don't have the incentive to recruit candidates with broad appeal. that means the primary, which matters much more than the gen...

And so republicans essentially are playing keepaway in a lot of these large states that they control, and the result is that primaries are going to be tantamount to election in over 85% or 95% of districts next year. >> how about illinois? i want another example of a democratic state. >> sure. well, illinois right now is 13-5 for the democrats, but under this new map the democrats drew, it's likely to be 14-3. now, when you see safe seats drawn, parties don't have the incentive to recruit candidates with broad appeal. that means the primary, which matters much more than the general election in...

Which people represent the small towns, the large cities where they get things done together by getting together and saying, these are our goals, we're going to find a way to do it, in washington, that's been missing, this campaign has only fed that in my judgment. >> i want to go to this vote rigging issue as a tactic. i feel it's backfiring on trump. it helps democrats motivate their base. >> yeah. >> while trump's sending the message, your vote doesn't count. >> he's essentially blaming african-americans and prestaging this idea that it's certain communities as he's putting it in philadelph...