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Foreign policy for plolitical ends. >> s.e., final thought? >> the hillary/stein/tulsi thing is so bizarre. for hillary's part, so unwise. i don't think she needs to make these outlandish -- i mean, bill is right. tulsi is a favorite of russia's and certainly assad's, but she doesn't have to go this far. it feels to me like hillary is sort of in burn it down mode. just burn it down. i mean, her aides are, you know, giving these cute, you know, kind of responses. well well, if the nesting doll fits. >> i mean, how does this help the democrats in any way? >> it doesn't. it doesn't. and you have ...

>> price, not the treason, you're saying? >> exactly. so from all of the bread crumbs that robert mueller is following are actually on the ground and you can see them and can follow them. so to suggest -- what roger stone is doing is what he's always done, he's being a public bully to sort of suggest that -- for his own political end, and the plolitical ends of his allis and donald trump, he's trying to distract. but his refusal to be honest with the committee in congress, in the house about the fact that he had the meeting in the first place tells us all we need to know about roger stone. >> ...