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Who just happened to get an e-mail from one of these people whose e-mails have been made public, all their information is now searchable for the most part if you know where to look. >> question becomes should sony have green lit and made this movie that involved this plot line involving kim jong-un. >> yeah. yeah! absolutely. you can't be afraid like that, but, you know, we learn over time, right? i don't think there's ever been a movie made in the history of movie making where somebody side we might get hacked by a sovereign government. >> this is a new one. >> this is a new one, right? so yo...

>> glad to be here. >> let's begin with i know you read that george clooney interview and you were watching the president's remarks saying this was a huge mistake on behalf of sony. do you agree with the president or do you think it's easy for the rest of us to monday morning quarterback this? >> it's easy to monday morning quarterback it but that decision was made by sony more for exhibitors who didn't want to show it for fear of violence. by the time sony decided to shut down, they heard from the big chains that it wasn't going to be welcome there so exhibition channels were limited for them...

Been successful considering success that sony has yanked this film from appearing in theaters christmas day, what's to prevent north korea from saying that worked. let's try google and the pentagon. we heard the president say today we are way behind on cybersecurity. congress needs to get on that. >> you know, there are many in the government saying this for a long time. it will be odd if this is the wake-up call that brings it home but probably it will be. you think of richard clark, the former national security adviser who has gone so far as to write novels using much of this material as a p...

Make these had similar decisions. they made commitments months ago to run this movie. this has profound freedom of speech issues here. profound freedom of impression here. are we really going to let foreign hackers decide what can be played in american theaters. >> not anyone is saying this is a great movie. >> no, mixed at best. this is a funny movie -- well, a funny movie, it's also a funny moment, talking about freedom of speech around a plot line of afascinating a north korean. >> no sign that sony mr. pressure theaters to keep this open. because if you back down here, if you back down on ...