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We heard his name a lot. we definitely heard a lot about former president trump. and we definitely discussed him a lot in the room. and i will say that when this list comes out you wouldn't -- there are no major plot twists waiting for you >> kohrs also indicated that the grand jury recommended charges for multiple people. wouldn't give an exact number but probably at least a dozen, she said, quote, it wasn't a short list. now former assistant u.s. attorney the author of the new book untouchable how powerful people get away with us and chief political correspondent and co acre dana bash, first...

That you would recognize. >> did the grand jury recommend an indictment of former president trump? >> i'm not going to speak on exact indictments. i don't think that there are any giant plot twists coming. i don't think that there are any, like, giant "that's not the way i expected that to go at all." i don't think that's in store for anyone. >> joining me now is democratic strategist kurt bardella and barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney, professor at the university of michigan school of law and msnbc legal analyst. barbara, i'll start with you. i was riveted by that interview because the fo...

The first one to be impeached twice, and he's going to be the first one to face an indictment. >> is i rolling and laughter, jordan, the universal sign for that answer? >> yes, i think so. >> [laughter] >> i like how she played it coy all the way through. and the fact that she said there's no plot twists is so exciting to me. i've got an hbo max account, i've got netflix, i've got plenty a plot twists. the fact that democracy might be boring is frankly the biggest easy could have. >> astead, is this going to possibly hurt the prosecution, that she's out talking to so many different media outle...

Foreperson a straight-up spilling plenty of information. emily kohrs spoke to nbc's blayne alexander about the list of indictment to the jury recommended. >> it is not a short list. >> so we're talking about more than a dozen people? >> i would say that, yes. >> are these recognizable names? names that people would know? >> there are certainly names that he would recognize, yes. >> she would not say whether that includes the former president, but did say this. >> i do not think that there are any giant plot twists coming. i do not think there are any, like, giant, that's not the way i expected...

>> in the last hour, the four person for the special grand jury in georgia investigating former president and his allies attempts to overturn the 2020 election spoke to cnn. emily corps was asked whether the former president might face charges. >> did you recommend charges against donald trump? >> i really don't want to share something that the judge made a conscious decision not to share. i will tell you that it was a process where we heard his name a lot. we definitely heard a lot about former president trump, and we definitely discussed him a lot in the room. and i will say that when this l...