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What are you seeing on the ground among the trump voters that the democrats would have to win the district like this? >> i think what we're seeing in ohio is just a real challenge from a couple years ago. people are recognize go that there is health care to merely a million, and the affordable care act, nearly a million people in the state. we need good jobs. the triple down policy that's have been pursued in the state house have not reached voters in the district. and we need strong public schools. and there are changes of what they are valuing. >> it was funny the president went there. i rea...

There's a real political headwind in this year's election for the republicans. this is not the kind of district we're used to fighting for. >> and just to be clear, troy balderson endorsed obamacare, or the affordable care act so kasich has actual lly sided wit him and was questioning him as to why he brought trump in. he was there on stage so he was certainly not running away from the president. >> the strategy is pretty much, line up with the president. heat up the base. turn out the trump vote and try to win. that may work in a plus 11 republican district like this, but in a swing district,...

Special election, don't use it as a litmus, won't tell you about the midterms. how do you see it, what are you watching for tuesday? >> well, if it's close, i think that's indicative of where places like ohio are and other congressional districts that are trump plus ten or republican plus 11 district, that democrats are going to be competitive in there. we have a shot to win this thing. it is very close, neck in neck, comes down to turnout. frankly the democrats have no bisque business being in the game, but trump's behavior violates a lot of midwestern sensibilities. it is an inclusive place,...

Seat. >> bellwether when bratt won it. >> tea party, wave seats, covering virginia for a long time, that's been a republican seat. that was not something the republican party thought they had to worry about. the rankings here have moved that into the toss-up category. if that's a toss-up seat for republicans they have to worry about, that's the canary in the coal mine that they have problems they need to address. >> let's look deeper at the numbers, 2018 numbers, crept numbers, compare them to how the president did in 2016. if you see right now, the generic house ballot, democrats are up 25 po...

Certain things. that's got to be addressed. democrats need to address the districts based on the needs of those districts. >> let me break those down him i want to first go to howard deny. the used to be your job to figure this out. let's start with the question of the secret trump voters and that ron brownstein question. this idea of spending money to go and try to convert suburban white voters who voted for donald trump, is that a worthwhile spend on the part of democrats rather than registering younger voters, voters of color who would naturally be democrat in. >> it really depends on the d...