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To wake up to, the fact that they shouldn't walk the plank for trump or they need to do more to sort of solidify whatever is going on with trump? >> a looming disaster for republicans on the stage of their biggest successes in american politics in a generation. these state capitals are the bread basket of republican politics and power and for donald trump in the midwest. these states like michigan and wisconsin are the places where he flipped a lot of these voters who were democrats. if there's weakening in those places, sit is a bad sign for te party and the president for 2018. joe? >> it's...

Steve kornacki is here with us from the big board. i feel like you take us to school every time i see this board. d plus 13. let's do it. >> let's go through what we can expect, maybe, in 2018. you hear the rnc chair there saying, hey, look, the way midterms work, the party that controls the white house usually loses. the question is just how bad is it? that's historically how it's been. there are some other signs that ought to be worrying republicans, though. one is this. they call it the generic ballot. they ask folks which party would you vote for to control congress? right now the average ...

Quinnipiac poll, democrats plus 15. monmouth, democrats plus 15. merritt, democrats plus 13. public strategies, plus 12. voter saying they're likely to vote for democrats in the mid-term elections. if you're a republican and looking at that, how is that going to change what you do for the republican agenda in 2019 -- 2018? >> well, you might try to get a lot done quickly, because you may not be in charge after 2018, but it probably also will encourage some republicans to retire, who were on the edge about whether to stay on or leave. it may also affect the donors. sometimes donors decide to sa...

And the economy doing well, or economic fairness. >> as you said in one of your segments, the democrats have a four point lead in the economy which is our first lead since 2009. it's sure, the economy but economic fairness and equal opportunity are strong messages for delts. >> feelings towards robert mueller is what i want to throw up. in june, overall the country, plus 13. positive to negative. even republicans. positive to negative by a point. however, in december it is now among republicans minus 18. the campaign against robert mueller has had an impact on at least fox republicans maybe. >...

The polling isn't so much wrong as the art of it is wrong because it's such a topsy turvy time we don't know or understand who's really going to show out and who's not going to turn out, right. if you told me two months ago that the democratic -- that the electorate in virginia would be 13 points, you know, plus 13 points democratic, i would say well that's an outlier. i don't think that's going to happen. >> yeah. >> but that's what you had. so it depends on who turns out. what you're hearing on alabama is you have a lot of energy on both sides, right. and people are talking about we've seen ...