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And so let's assume for the moment that in july, we still have some that have not met both. then what you will see is we'll look at polling averages to see who moved up highest on the polling averages, and that's how we will break the tie. and then in september, we have a different criteria, because you to show progress. >> yep. >> so in september, it moves from 1% to 2%, and it's no longer an or. it's 2% and 130,000 unique donors. and if you have 100,000 now, chris, you only need 30,000 more. >> that's key i think for people to understand. there is identical criteria for the june and july one...

Look at polling averages to see who moved up highest on the polling averages, and that's how we will break the tie. and then in september, we have a different criteria, because you to show progress. >> yep. >> so in september, it moves from 1% to 2%, and it's no longer an or. it's 2% and 130,000 unique donors. and if you have 100,000 now, chris, you only need 30,000 more. >> that's key i think for people to understand. there is identical criteria for the june and july one. two night, ten candidates per night, 20 candidates, right? then august, no debate. then september, the first step up. so n...

To 2% and it's no longer an or, it's 2% and 130,000 unique donors, and if you have 100,000 now, chris, you only need 30,000 more. >> right, so that's key, i think, for people to understand. there's identical criteria for the june and july ones, two nights, ten candidates per night, 20 candidates right, then august no debate. then september the first step up, right? so now we're at 2% plus 130,000 donors. you guys haven't announced october, correct? >> i think that's correct. we announced this for september, ask you know, we're continuing to assess. >> yeah, one of the things i think that's int...

It's 2% and 130,000 unique donors. and if you have 100,000 now, chris you only need 30,000 more. >> so that's key, i think, for people to understand. there is identical criteria for the june and july one. two nights, ten candidates per night, 20 candidates. then august no debate. then september, the first step up. so now we're at 2% plus 130,000 donors. you guys haven't announced october, correct? >> i think that's correct. we announced this for september, and we're continuing to assess. >> one of the things i think that's interesting here, there is all this talk about how big the field is tha...