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John edwards is a big liberal. leland: to take from that, if there's a liberal candidate that masquerades as a moderate come november of 2020, that they can win in louisiana or other states that are deep red even something like louisiana trump plus 20 -- trump plus 10. >> in 2020, leland, donald trump is going to be on the ballot and not somebody like eddy or the governor of kentucky, it'll be the real deal and donald trump is very popular in louisiana, he will win in a landslide. leland: are you worried about a place like say, pennsylvania, or michigan, that things have changed? >> no, becaus...

By michael bloomberg's campaign as deputy chief operating officer, but it's still full steam ahead for harris in iowa, she's making 5 campaign stops in iowa today including the one she's at right now which is an african-american round community event. >> thank you so much. leland: little more on 2020, we bring in talk radio host jeff who i think has recovered from all of the fried turkey and southern goodness on thanksgiving, we appreciate you being with us as always. let's get back to what elizabeth warren was saying, you will say that she's too liberal for america, right that would be your g...

Everything down. but right now it looks like the russians have gained control of that region. the syrians have moved in there to confront turkey turkey has overstepped even what they told president trump they were going to do. so they are about plus 20 miles in across the border. steve: with that tweet the president doubled down he is not going to change a thing at this point. brian: for some reason my ipad is chronicling everything you are saying. like the congressional record. steve: word sirius or syria. there it goes again. ainsley: everything he says. brian: anything syria related out of ...

There's no winners. >> reporter: almost five years after catherine novak's murder, so many secrets, lies, and betrayals had been revealed. so many questions raised. would the jury believe paul's ex-lover and his ex-partner? was paul a ruthless killer, or had he been set up? it took the jury two full days of deliberations. on the third day they had made a decision. the verdict was in. >> we find in the case of the people of the state of new york versus paul novak as to count 1, murder in the first degree. >> guilty. >> reporter: guilty. convicted of first-degree murder. paul showed only a sligh...

We loved each other for more than 20 years. our marriage was over, but not our affection for each other. i would no more have harmed her than i would harm my daughters by taking her from them. >> reporter: leniency was not forthcoming. the judge sentenced steve democker to natural life plus 20 years. no parole. no hope of a life ever outside prison walls. all along, we'd been asking for an interview with steve. he was willing. the sheriff wasn't. finally, after the sentencing, we were allowed a brief telephone interview from state prison.