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Will have a long-term impact on the policy or assad's calculations, but i disagree in the sense that i do think you're going to see something surgical and pointed from this administration in response. >> thank you both. >> i don't disagree with elise either, but if we're waiting on president trump to see pictures of atrocities to prompt him to actually have a strategy, that's a sad commentary on united states foreign policy. >> that's another conversation, josh. >> it is another conversation, but i do recall after the chemical attack last year, that is what led president trump to take action. ...

Job to handle syria, let's let others handle it. he's doing it because he wants to win the war and will continue to do it unless he's stopped or coerced to come to the negotiating table. >> a war against who, though? because it's 500,000 plus syrians who have been killed. it's his own people. >> a that's kind of my point, his mass murder of his own people is not about us, it's about him committing the worse atrocities of the modern era. people talk about the troops levels going up or down. that's one small part of the range of options that the u.s. could lead to stop this slaughter. but no one...