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To say today. >> north korea's continued work on its nuclear and missile programs seriously undermines regional and international peace and security and threatens the security of a number of countries, including the united states. >> now, you've got the south korean inaugural on february 25th. the state of the union tonight, as you point out the chinese new year, and there's another problem. we don't know yet whether this was plutonium device, which is what they've done in the past, or uranium. tell us what would be the significance if now it shows that it was uranium. >> the plutonium program...

Obstructing and break agreements. the second part is worse. even if they adhere to the agreements this is completely useless. all this does is stop uraniumen richment. they have plutonium program. that's untouch and that is the program that produced the nukes that the north koreans have today. it precedeed this and there is no change at all. this is a nice soothing headline for administration in an election year. >> bret: unicef says 80% of the kids in north korea are malnourished and the food aid is necessary. but the deals we have done them before. >> the white house is in the corner trying ...

Up and walk out and say we're obstructing and break agreements. the second part is worse. even if they adhere to the agreements this is completely useless. all this does is stop uraniumen richment. they have plutonium program. that's untouch and that is the program that produced the nukes that the north koreans have today. it precedeed this and there is no change at all. this is a nice soothing headline for administration in an election year. >> bret: unicef says 80% of the kids in north korea are malnourished and the food aid is necessary. but the deals we have done them before. >> the white ...

Intelligence committee is that you have to speak truth to power. this is the classic job number one of a director of national intelligence to say it's your prerogative to decide what to do once you get a set of facts, but it is my obligation to tell you what they are. and this isn't a close call, by the way. often times intelligence agencies have different views on hard questions, think north korea and their plutonium program. everyone agrees on it so not just saying it to the president but to the world. here is what the united states thinks. >> this is one of the reasons why i think we have s...

>> absolutely. and that's always been in every other round of negotiations that's what we sought. when president clinton got the agreed framework, it was basically based on a freeze on the north korean side of their plutonium program. at the time they only had one nuclear program, the plutonium one. when george bush got a negotiation going with the north koreans, that was also based on a freeze. i agree with you a freeze is the number one starting point. the north koreans will probably ask us for something return in return. perhaps the exercises we do with the south koreans every year, maybe w...