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nuclear plant in ukraine and the situation needs to be treated with immense caution. he's just arrived in austria following his initial inspection of the plant, which has been now on bbc news, the media show. hello and welcome to this week's the media show. now, we're going to talk about news podcasts this week. there's been a very high profile launch. it's called the news agents. it's from global, and it's presented byjon sopel and emily maitlis, both big figures at the bbc before they left to set this up. emily maitlis has also been in the news because she gave a mactaggart lecture...

People want intelligent conversation. they want things that provoke emotions and different thoughts and responses. people listen when they're going to bed at night. it's a really intimate medium. are you worried by, for example, podcast data that 0fcom's released, which shows that from the last two years, total podcast listening hours have stayed absolutely flat? i think there are lots of different stats, ros. i think podcast listening across the world is actually is actually increasing year on year, to be honest. is it one of the challenges of running a company in the podcast space that data ...

Listeners from across the world tuning into that. people want intelligent conversation. they want things that provoke emotions and different thoughts and responses. people listen when they're going to bed at night. it's a really intimate medium. are you worried by, for example, podcast data that 0fcom's released, which shows that from the last two years, total podcast listening hours have stayed absolutely flat? i think there are lots of different stats, ros. i think podcast listening across the world is actually is actually increasing year on year, to be honest. is it one of the challenges of...

Conversation. they want things that provoke emotions and different thoughts and responses. people listen when they're going to bed at night. it's a really intimate medium. are you worried by, for example, podcast data that 0fcom's released, which shows that from the last two years, total podcast listening hours have stayed absolutely flat? i think there are lots of different stats. i think podcast listening across the world is actually is actually increasing year on year, to be honest. is it one of the challenges of running a company in the podcast space that data around podcasts is sometimes ...

It's a different experience to having the radio on in the kitchen while you're doing the washing up. you know, it's a very intimate experience. and people have much greater choice. you know, you talk every week about streaming and the choice people have. so people come to us, they're interested in politics. i also produce other podcasts through my company, persephonica. ok, you know, we're making a podcast for dua lipa, the pop star who does a fantastic interview podcast, and we're seeing lots of young listeners from across the world tuning into that. people want intelligent conversation. they...