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And we just spent $1.7 trillion, both parties, republicans joining in the senate, a few in the house, to pass a $1. 7 trillion omnibus spending bill. we have got to have a leader who not only has true conservative convictions who reflect the majority of rebe uns who send us but, yeah, a courageous leader. >> laura:: courage, yes but one also has to ask the question of how you get from point a to point b. how does staffing mccarthy moving the needing toward america first solutions? the way to advance the populist cause is to get more power, to elect more members, not to grandstand. and you get ...

Distance of 2:18, and i don't mean picking up six votes, eight votes, ten votes. i mean really in a place where you can see the distance from point a to point b. i think you really do have to ask yourself, what on earth could possibly bring lauren boebert. >> to jonathan's point, the great irony of all of this is, it really doesn't matter which republican speaker. the next two years are going to be mega chaos in that house. in that body. they're going to investigate hunter biden, they're gonna haul doctor fauci in front of the committee, no matter who the speaker is in the speaker can't stop t...

Again, i keep saying from point a to point b. better representation for the people, the anti-war republicans don't have the numbers yet. they need the numbers. they can block some things. >> that's true. >> laura: but blocking mccarthy, again, no one is as conservative as i want them to be but blocking mccarthy, how does that get you to a point where you block the pro war coalition or pro china or pro free treed or open borders. not sure how that gets you there. you see what my point is tonight? >> yeah, i see your point and i agree with you. there definitely needs to be more people who are fo...

Maybe we should do something different. i want tools to change that. >> laura: but my question to you again, you have to get from point a to point b. >> sure. >> laura: i understand frustration with the establishment. long before you were on capitol hill i've been fighting the establishment so i get that. >> right. >> laura: but you still have to be able to get to point b. so my question is a very specific one. would you rather have hakeem jeffery's. >> that's not a real choice, that's not a real choice. >> laura: authority in the house rather than have mccarthy as speaker with the concessions...

No directive. what we're trying to provide with minimal resources we have is a direction so they can go from point a to point b. >> over the past few months tens of thousands of migrants have been surging to the southern border. it's left border towns like el paso overwhelmed and unable to keep up with the challenges of providing care, food, shelter for those in need. >> we've had as many as 2500 crossings a day and that will continue. this is while title 42 is still in place. >> reporter: el paso is preparing for an even larger surge transforming two vacant schools into temporary housing. >> ...